
Update: in California, the Amazon Affiliate program was reinstated – at least temporarily. Here’s an article explaining more. Even if you are from Cali, though, I believe this post below is still an important read, and justification for the importance of diversity in one’s income source.
As many of you already know, Jerry Brown, governor of California, signed a bill (ABx1 28) Wednesday evening that, in effect today, July 1st 2011, will require out-of-state online retailers with any kind of “nexus” in the state – a physical or corporate presence (not just a brick-and-mortar retail outlet) to collect sales tax on good sold in California.
California isn’t the first state to impose this tax, as New York, Illinois, Rhode Island, North Carolina, and Colorado already do so. Similar laws are currently proposed in Arizona, Hawaii, Minnesota, Mississippi and Vermont.
The interesting thing is that affiliates for a company in the state trigger this obligation to pay, even if there is no physical presence in the state.
In response, to take a stand on what they feel is an unconstitutional and counterproductive bill and void this sales tax, many large online retailers such as Amazon.com and Overstock.com have terminated their relationship with affiliates in these states.
The true victims here are the affiliates, whose existing income from these sources has been cutoff literally overnight.
More than 25,000 loyal affiliates, including myself, have been tossed aside. I didn’t rely too heavily on Amazon’s Associate Program for an income, but I do know a number of people who did. Also, it’s not just bloggers and niche site marketers who are affected – there are several companies with dozens of employees who relied on selling products from Amazon.com and other online retailers as an affiliate as well. So, as a result, many people will be losing their jobs too.
Another thought – can you imagine how many websites there are out there that still have affiliate links that are still making money for Amazon – except now they don’t have to pay the affiliate any part of it?
Crazy.
Heated Opinions
Lots of people have some very strong opinions about this matter.
Some say the tax is indeed unlawful, saying affiliates shouldn’t really count as “physical presence” in a state. This is based off of a Supreme Court case in Quill Corp. v. North Dakota in 1992 which ruled in Quill Corp’s favor (Quill Corp. was an out-of-state mail order house), stating that a business had to be physically present in a state before it was required to collect tax.
Others have noticed that Amazon, even though they cut off ties with 25,000+ affiliates in California, might still have to pay sales tax anyways because of subsidiary companies in California including kindle research and development centers, A9.com (a search engine company), and Alexa, which resides in San Francisco.
Did Amazon screw their affiliates for nothing?
Also, proponents of the bill feel it’s only fair to impose this tax, as it puts the internet retailers on level ground with business that are hurting because companies like Amazon can charge significantly less. You do have to step back and look at exactly who was supporting this bill: big-box retailers, most of which are based outside California.
Then there’s the issue of whether or not the tax would actually do anything anyways. Similar legislation in other states has led to little, if any, new tax revenue, and has mostly resulted in job and income losses.
It’s a tough debate because I think California and other states who impose this tax are shooting themselves in the foot while at the same time hurting small business owners, but at the same time should Amazon and other online retailers have the right to avoid sales tax because they are online.
What do you think?
Personally, I’m upset at both the state legislature and Amazon. The state for imposing the tax, and Amazon for retaliating by terminating the loyalty they previously had to affiliates, who really are what made Amazon who they are today.
So What Can You Do If You Were an Affiliate for Amazon?
Disclaimer: This is not legal advice. I am not a lawyer or professional and I will not be held liable for any action or inaction that you take after reading this section. These are just some of the options that I understand are available to you.
Stay an Affiliate
First and foremost, depending on what niche you’re in and what kinds of products from Amazon you were promoting, you may be able to continue as an affiliate – just not through Amazon.com.
Since Amazon’s goodbye, major retailers like Barnes and Noble, Target, Best Buy, Sears and Wal-Mart (source: sfgate) have extended invitations to each of their affiliate programs.
Below are links to information about each of their affiliate programs:
- Barnes and Noble Affiliate Network
- Best Buy Partnership Program
- Wal-Mart Affiliate Program
- Target Affiliate Program
- Sears Affiliate Network
Most of these big-box affiliate programs run through a third-party affiliate service, such as the Google Affiliate Network, Link Share, and Commission Junction.
Before you’re quick to jump onto these platforms, however, do realize that these big-box companies are the same companies who supported the Amazon Tax bill in the first place…
Become a Reseller
This will not apply to all products, but it’s worth a shot.
Skip Amazon, skip the affiliate program and go directly to the company of the product you were selling. Many of these companies, I’m sure, understand what’s going on and understand too that affiliates have driven a lot of their sales. Depending on your volume, traffic and your negotiation skills, you may be able to cut some kind of deal, or potentially work in some in-house affiliate program.
I don’t know – I’m just trying to think out of the (big) box here.
Setup a Business in Another State
Chris Guthrie (from sessions #10 and #22 of the SPI podcast) also wrote an informative post about what recently happened and offered some actionable options, one of which actually included the idea of simply setting up a business in another state.
Some of the comments that later came in that post advised that unless the business owner were to actually move and conduct business in that new state, it just wouldn’t work, and actually it could be considered tax fraud (again, please seek professional advice when making any decisions for your business). Anything that sounds like a workaround or a loophole doesn’t really sound that safe to me, so I would advise against it.
The only way out would be to move to Washington State, where Amazon.com resides (in Seattle), which would always be safe. If you were making a living from the Amazon.com affiliate program and you had no other options, this may be something actually to consider.
Sell Your Website
Some people have considered selling their websites to those who reside in states where there is not yet any Amazon Tax law. This would make sense to me if I had a site that just had no other way of generating an income.
You might as well earn a buck from it, right?
Note that there is talk that Amazon may sue the state of California (like they did to New York) to try and overturn this statute. Some say that California has no chance, while other say otherwise. Either way, as mentioned in this LA Times article – “It’s going to be years before this whole issue is settled in the courts.”
Great.
Diversify
Try other things and add to your “portfolio”, as I like to say.
And this is really the key lesson here – you should never put all of your eggs into one basket, because that basket, no matter how reliable it has been for you and how many eggs you may have been able to carry, may one day break on you, just like Amazon did for their affiliates.
Conclusion
If you were effected by this tax, in California or any other state, I feel for you. We’re just pawns in this ongoing battle for a bottom line, and it’s very unfortunate.
But, I’ve been there before (when I was laid off), and it turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me, so as long as you keep your head high, take it one day at a time and stay positive, you’ll get back on your feet and possibly do even bigger and better things in the future.
If you’re in the states, have a happy 4th of July weekend, and cheers to you all!
I’d love to hear what your stance is on this issue. Were you impacted by this legislature, and if so what are you planning to do, if anything?
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Wow, scary thought, I don’t make a lot from Amazon but I get a reasonable income. What a waste of the time in building a website to just have them say sorry were not letting you be an affiliate any more. I think using other affiliates has got to be the solution, I also use CJ and they have a lot of products available.
Big government at work. Jerry is just getting started.
I wasn’t seeing big bucks from amazon either but definitely bummed whe I heard the news. Thanks for delivering this post and offering suggestions!
Not sure how anything that stifles commerce and punishes small business can be good… but it won’t be long before EVERY state (except perhaps NH) follows suit.
That’s really disappointing. As I remember jumping on board just not so long ago. Surprisingly the banners are still up, but I can’t access the account. ha.
Would it be out of the question for me (as an example) to provide an affiliate tag for people in CA from my account in my non-taxed state?
I am in a serious bind with this, I made an average of $8000 a year from Amazon, but mostly from sales of inexpensive research books on costumes, paper doll books, and a bit on costumes and DVDs. I haven’t found any book place with smart enough links or even with half the books i sold before. I get a fair income $150-300 a month from Adsense, but not enough to pay for the technical expenses of running such a huge site. Are there any other book sites that actually have smart book links with a real body of books that don’t just stick to bestselling fiction? Powell’s and Barnes and Noble both seem to put up next t nothing when i do searches on their site.
Thanks for sharing the affiliate programs links. They are really helpful. I am also impacted and updating my mini-sites to other affilate programs. I heard Ebay Partner Program would be good too. You get paid by driving traffic to Ebay. I’d give a shot and hope to get approval soon.
Hi Pat! I’ve been following you forever! I’m so glad to see this topic as we were just wondering about this last night. I’m just getting started with my blog but my husband has a network of concept art blogs that are blowing up. He wasn’t making a lot from Amazon, but it was important to him to promote the artists’ books out of support for their work. He left the amazon widget up even after they ditched us because of that, but has now taken it off because we’re mad at Amazon too. We thought about setting up business in Wyoming, but they track your ip address so like you said, you actually have to be operating from there.
I wonder what’s going to happen if most of the the states adopt the tax law and they lose the majority of their affiliates. Will they cave in or is their business strong enough without affiliate sales?
Thanks for the information about the alternatives. I’m looking forward to researching that further!
I’m on the side of Amazon here. I think these states’ attempts at capitalizing on internet businesses is disturbing. This will change the game for affiliate marketers and those that earn from them. It’s a HUGE problem. You’ve pointed out all the problems. I was about to launch a site and begin to build my affiliate sales, but if it happens here in Texas, I’m screwed. This makes me have second thoughts about starting.
According to 4 different attorneys, the only way to legally get back to being affiliated with Amazon again is to move out of state.
Simply forming an LLC in another state apparently won’t work and will only get you in trouble with the BOE.
One thing you can ALL do is to write to the people in charge of your district letting them know how this bill has hurt your business. With enough people speaking out against this bill, there could be a good chance this bill will be overturned.
First up, Amazon has only to do one thing in order too allow it accept CA affiliates again and that is to start charging sales tax in CA and remitting to the Franchise Tax Board (people seem to forget that ecommerce sales are not exempt from sales tax — if the retailer does not remit the sales tax, the consumer is SUPPOSED to remit them). Amzn has dodged this bullet for years and I for one am glad that CA and other states are doing the right thing by closing the sales tax loophole. This episode and every episode where companies dodge their tax obligations only serve to drive me away from them. Until Amazon sucks it up and behaves like a responsible company, I think Californians should boycott them. I am a former Amzn shopper and I can live quite happily without them.
Moreover, there are a few big sellers who still accept CA affiliates including Buy.com (comparable selection and prices to Amazon in most categories), eBay (generally strong but not always good on long tail), Walmart (if you can stomach it — limited selection too).
Good on you, Jerry Brown!
Great stuff, Pat!
Some recent updates about this issue – http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/12/technology/amazon-backs-end-to-online-sales-tax-in-california.html?_r=1
Some possible good news…
http://performancemarketingassociation.com/amazon-files-for-referendum-in-california-taking-the-issue-to-the-voters
I’m not sure when or if this petition will start but when/if it does, we’ll need 500,000 signatures to immediately block the Nexus bill.
It’s unfortunate that these companies have dropped California affiliates, especially since this state has such a large market and numerous opportunities. But as the blog post states, there are alternatives for former spurned affiliates in this state. Art.com and AllPosters.com both have affiliate programs. With over 1 million art prints and posters in hundreds of categories, I’m certain that you can find related merchandise to promote. Both websites are owned by the same company, which is based in California, so any CA affiliates searching for alternatives are welcome to join.
And thanks again Pat for permission! I wish all of your readers and fans good luck.
This will be overturned as it is unconsitutional. If not, imagine what it will do to the smaller tangible selling item sites and affiliates. CA needs to accept a 1 to 2% sales tax on internet sales vs 8.25% and repeal that Prop 13. That repeal is imminent as the population gets older
I live in Illinois, so I’ve never had the opportunity to be an Amazon affiliate. I’m originally from the Seattle area and I moved to get away from the rain, so that’s not an option
. However, I’m hoping that EVERY state carrying this type of law will repeal it – it isn’t good for small business/entrepreneurs or our economy. I think I’ll move to Missouri
. One hand giveth and the other taketh away….
These are just terrible laws. They don’t hurt Amazon, they hurt those trying to make a living. I know at least one person who is actually moving from California not just because of this, but it was the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Things like these are shaking the stability of only businesses affecting thousands of bloggers and online marketers. Bloggers just want to earn money online, why can’t the government gives that freedom.
It really is disgusting that our government, which is supposed to be by the people and for the people, get these bone head lifelong politicians who lose sight of what it is like to be a little guy and ruin attempts circulate money in the economy that will ultimately help the government as well as everyone else. Greed is good if you are a grifter but it is death to your constituants if you are a politician.
I just wanted to stop in real quick and share what I did to “get around” being dropped from Amazon.
I started using Skimlinks (http://www.skimlinks.com). They are based in the UK, so laws in the states can’t touch them.
What Skimlinks does is convert product links on your site (including current Amazon affiliate links when conversion is enabled) to go through Skimlinks. So, Skimlinks would pay you and does take a cut, but it will still allow you to promote Amazon products and get paid for it. And since Skimlinks converts the links automatically, all you have to do is add their code to your site. You don’t have to change the Amazon links at all.
This saved me a lot of time and let me still get some income from my links. I may even stick with them for the long haul since it saves time creating any affiliate links…
Blessings,
Michelle Jay
My amazon pages all went down when yahoo.com pulled the plug on geocities. I was just gearing up to start a blog on wordpress.com when I got this news. Too bad for amazon, not that I make any big splash, but I switched over to Powells, Barnes & Noble and Rodale through linksys.
Pat,
There might be hope yet: http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/08/technology/amazon_california_sales_tax/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&hpt=hp_bn4
Good luck!
~Austin
This will lead to exodus of web based companies to states like Delawere or offshore contries.
It will only hurt California in the long run
I meant those companies that rely on Amazon associates program as their main source of income
Any word on the outcome of all this? One of my websites has over a million monthy visitors and would love to try some affiliate sales. I’m based in CO and have no idea where to start with Amazon. I hear they are very bad about sharing!
I think people need to make a bigger noise over this. We live in Washington state (for 3 years now) and told Amazon we had moved from Calif to Washington state, when we heard this news. Since July we only received one last check and no more even though we’ve maintained our site. We can see that we’ve made made Amazon thousands of dollars monthly by running reports. NOw, we’ve written them again and have gotten back a non sensical response that doesn’t even address the fact that we’ve moved; basically saying they don’t owe us anything.
They are frankly IMO playing dumb and may be illegally holding onto affiliates fees because those affiliates (like us) are being made to “re-enter” a new contract in order to be recognized – now months later. While I understand Amazon’s right to do business with whom they choose, it’s hypocritical of them to say that states like California are doing harm to the ‘little affiliate’ meanwhile they play dumb about what they owe the same affiliates they’ve kept in limbo since their decision to pull out of Calif.
We are legitimate affiliates and did our diligence in informing them that we had moved and they have not done theirs in recognizing us as their AFFiLIATE.
I think I may have a pretty simple work around to this serious problem. Form a limited partnership corporation with a friend you trust in a state where Amazon affiliates are allowed. Use your friend’s address for the business. You would want to structure your business partnership so that your friend had zero voting rights actual operations of the company but pay them 10%-15% of the net revenues or whatever so it’s worth their while to deposit amazon checks off at the bank.
Obviously, it would be important to follow the best practices of doing business with friends; sign contractual agreement, explain partnership responsibilities upfront, etc.
As far as I know it’s not illegal to form a corporation in a state where you do not reside. It might make your taxes a little more complicated at the end of the year but if Amazons affiliate program is part of your business it should be well worth it. Can anyone (hopefully a lawyer or accountant) see any problem with this?
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