What’s on Deck for Smart Passive Income in 2013

Things have been busy in the Flynn household, which as many of you know doubles as my office space.

With an almost 3-year old and a 3 month old in the house together, things can get pretty wild. My wife and I make a decent tag team and surprisingly managing two kids hasn’t been as hard as we thought it was going to be.

(I say that now, but check back with me in a few months.)

Within the office walls I’m balancing multiple projects, as usual, and with the speaking circuit I’m on in the first half of 2013 things are definitely not going to die down.

As the new year approaches I’ve been thinking a lot about The Smart Passive Income brand – how far it has come, where it’s at and where I want it to go. I know I always say this, but this blog wouldn’t even be here if it wasn’t for you, the fans. I’m humbled, blessed and amp’d to pay you back for all of your support you’ve given me these past 4 years.

Because I know you invest a lot of your time with Smart Passive Income, like a good company would do with its shareholders, I want to give you some details about where I want to take the brand in the future.

I wouldn’t consider this post and what I’m about to outline below a “brand new” direction. It’s not a reaction to anything except the fact that I know I could do even more for you.

The words “fine-tuning” might sum it up best, and being more purposeful.

I’d love to hear what you think about where things are headed…

A New Look

This blog has been through a handful of redesigns in the past, and although I realize that the current design is not necessarily broken (it’s obviously “doing its thing”), there are still aspects of it that can definitely be improved upon.

User experience will play a major role in how it looks. Form follows function (as we used to say back in architecture school) and everything will have its purpose. The current design, unfortunately, incorporates a lot of random “hey this is cool” or “I heard this might work” items, especially in the sidebar.

As much ‘stuff’ as I put on the site (which only adds to the clutter) very little of it actually gets clicked on or used. That’s not good.

For full disclosure, I’m working closely with Chase Reeves who did the amazing redesign for ThinkTraffic.net, along with a Thesis designer too. The new site will be on the incredibly powerful Thesis 2.0 (affiliate link) theme framework.

“Missing Out”

On Facebook, I asked my fans to share one thing that they liked about the design of my blog and one thing that could be improved. The 60+ responses were absolute gold, but here’s one from Joshua Natella that made me shift forward in my chair:

The most successful series on SPI is the niche site duel, by far. That case study and experiment has helped countless people start their own websites, earn their first dollar online and it has actually helped a number people quit their day jobs and start a new life.

The series started in August of 2010. Although I’ve gone back and updated some of the content so that it’s still current, Joshua is absolutely right – there hasn’t been a “niche site duel” type case study since.

In 2013, you’re going to see a lot more of me starting from scratch and taking you along with me, sharing everything along the way. That’s the kind of stuff you won’t want to miss out on.

I think part of the delay is that I’m still working to improve the security guard training site that came out of the niche site duel. It’s on pace for a record month of earnings in December and there is still so much more potential.

One idea I had was that when the sites and businesses I build become sustainable and are as automated as possible, I could hand them off to someone to manage, we’d share the revenue and the site could continue on it’s path so that I can focus on something new. I could sell them off instead (the latest offer I had on my security guard training site is $38,000), but I’d rather continue to earn that passive income and keep that business as an asset as it continues to grow.

This way, I can help more people by doing more case studies, I’d have a portfolio of businesses that I can test various marketing strategies on to share, and the income I earn outside of the make money online space can continue to grow.

Plus, it would make creating content on the SPI blog incredibly easy and I think that information would be more educational and more memorable than just writing “top 10 tips for” posts all day long.


Every day my inbox welcomes at least 3 or 4 emails from people who ask me to personally coach or mentor them. Some of those people are starting from scratch, some of them already have an existing blog or business.

As much as I would love to help every single person who asks, it is just not humanly possible to do so and I feel terrible when I decline their requests. I put a lot into my blog posts, videos and podcast sessions because I know I can’t help everyone individually. I let my content become the coach or the mentor, but of course everyone’s situation is a little different, as are the skills they have to tap into.

To go along with the idea of regularly starting or exploring something new (i.e. every 2-3 months, more or less), I’d also love to help others do the same with me. Of course, the blog posts and reports that I publish will educate those who decide to consume that content, but I want to actually take in a small group of fired-up, enthusiastic and committed individuals and form a “learning group” so we can all work through our own projects together.

In the “learning group”, we’d all have more motivation to get things done, we can all learn from each other and we can see what works and what doesn’t across the board. I’ll then be able to report more confidently on what works and what doesn’t for everyone. It’ll be fun for you to not just follow my own progress, but the progress of others in the group too.

Lastly, I get a lot of emails from people who think that I’m something special. They think, “I’m no Pat Flynn, I can’t do that”.

The truth is, I am nobody special. And hopefully by showing how others succeed too, we can all gain the confidence to take action together.

I still have to work out the logistics, but there will most likely be an application and interview process to figure out who will be in the groups. When I move onto a new project, that group can choose to continue to meet as a little mastermind group.

You Dig?

I love to teach. I love to take complicated, foreign things and break them down so that you can learn much faster, and therefore get results much faster.

Doing this in the context of actually building a business from scratch or trying something new in an existing business and taking you along the ride would take my teaching to a whole new level, and I know it would help the SPI blog grow even faster and reach more people.

Again, I’ve done this before, but it needs to happen again and more often, and it will.

Do you like where this is headed? Would you prefer more regular, deep case studies like the niche site duel? I write for you, so I’d love to know what you think.

Cheers, and all the best!

  • http://www.extramoneyblog.com Sunil from The Extra Money Blog

    excellent thoughts Pat. I think a comprehensive series like the niche site duel will continue to enable you to impact many with the same amount of effort you’d spend on coaching individually.

    I understand there is something to be said about the personal touch, but the scale at which you can impact people is truly expanded with a great platform such as your blog.

    I am looking forward to more in depth material. I am also looking forward to more success stories and studies, which is what I personally enjoy most about your material.

    All the continuing best in 2013

    • Pat Flynn

      Thank you Sunil! All the best to you and your blog as well, and Happy Holidays!

    • http://www.webofincome.com The Rookie

      Agree with Sunil. Your blog has been great to read even when your not teaching. The posts are fun and you write in a way that keeps the readers reading. I personally don’t necessarily read it to learn anything (although the information is great) It has an entertainment value that keeps me coming back.

      The duel was great. Always wanted to see who would win. Maybe its the competition thing. Case studies are always good as people love to see success (and Failure) and see why.

      Experimenting will keep me coming back as I love seeing what your upto next.

    • http://www.jasonloveslife.com Jason Love

      I love and have read through the Niche Site Duel several times. What I love about it is that I can see several options for creating profitable niche sites, see the process, get the data results, and make my own decision based on that.

      I would love more information on your coaching course.

      -Jason Love

    • http://rich-blogger.com Kamil @ Rich Blogger

      We are also looking forward to see your book in 2013 :). Blog is really great, have great value material, but I’m really curious about this book. I wish You Pat bestseller like The 4-Hour Workweek or The Millionaire Fastlane.

  • Ron

    Thats a great point about team raising two kids. It does take a team. I know you have dealt with the subject of team building before. Perhaps a series like your podcasting series on team building with regards to marketing would be a good topic.

    • Pat Flynn

      Thanks Ron, I’ll definitely keep that in mind! Cheers!

  • http://www.freebiehq.co.uk Andrew

    All this sounds great. Especially the mastermind style group although I bet there will be literally hundreds applying! :)
    Personally I agree with the comment you shared in the post that the best content was from the niche site duel and recently there hasn’t been anything that made me go WOW!
    Just my opinion. :)

    • Pat Flynn

      Thank you for your honesty Andrew. I’m sure you and Joshua aren’t the only ones that feel this way. Cheers, and all the best!

  • http://www.andrewmacarthy.com Andrew M

    Hi Pat, great post. I tend to agree with the comment lifted from Facebook; I’d love to see more insider looks at new projects. :)

    • Pat Flynn

      Thanks Andrew! I’d love to see more of it too :)

  • http://www.nutsandboltsmedia.com Andrea

    While I’m nowhere near the same level you are, I’ve noticed with my own business that it gets harder to “do” and not just “teach” as time goes on. I love talking with people about what I do and helping them get started (I do web design and WP consulting), but sometimes I really miss actually getting to do all the stuff I talk about for myself! It’s hard to balance, and I’m sure it will only get more difficult.

    I really look forward to seeing what’s new for SPI and I can’t wait to see the new look – Chase does amazing work! Wishing you guys a great Christmas, and I’m so glad you took the time to acknowledge and respond to the feedback you received about the site. :)

  • Jenda Simecik

    I know you think about other case studies than niche sites but I woud love to follow Niche Site Duel 2.0 !!
    Keep it up, Pat! Love SPI!

    • Pat Flynn

      Another niche site in today’s environment would be great!

      • http://findananny.sg Mike

        “In today’s environment” Exactly right. There have been some changes in Google’s algorithm recently (as we all know), and as you have said elsewhere, the system outlined in the Niche Site Dual still works “sometimes” but not every-time.
        It would be good to see the latest thinking on how to rank highly, post Penguin and Panda.

  • http://www.mindyjoymedia.com Mindy

    I will be emailing you soon, Pat. I am building a website community for the purpose of helping bloggers find mentors and be mentors. My idea is users will be able to set up private groups for mentoring. I would love to be able to help you out. It would be great to give back to you, after all I have learned from you and your site/podcast.

    • Pat Flynn

      Sounds interesting Mindy, I look forward to it!

  • http://onlinemoneyboss.com Prateek Bansal

    Hi Patt,
    I have started with my own blog just to help People and tech them about Blogging and making money Online and I am even returning the affiliate I am going to Get. No Profit for now :)

    • Pat Flynn

      What other online businesses or blogs have you started that you make money from already? I’d like to see what you have going on!

      • http://onlinemoneyboss.com Prateek Bansal

        I am already running many Blogs but I can not reveal all them here. But for those who are public are http://Jobs57.com (Indian Jobs Blog and getting around 13000 page-views a day ) and http://Fbupdates.com (Facebook Updates) .
        Thanks a lot for Feedback :)

  • http://orraclemedia.com Rob

    Great to hear Pat. I’m putting together a list for my community that is covering some of these same things. We even started a niche site challenge having been inspired by your duel with Tyrone that will be revamped to start again in the new year (I definitely need to make some improvements there!). I’m looking forward to seeing what you do and the new look of your site. As always, you’ve got a ton of great content and I learn something new every time I come here.

  • http://caseygentles.com Internet Marketing With Casey Gentles

    Hey Pat,

    Your blog posts are always awesome. I do agree with Natella though, I really enjoyed you niche duel experiment and so I can wait to get what you have in store for 2013.

    Best wishes for the holiday season and all the best for 2013.

  • http://www.freebookcafe.com Mike

    Thanks Pat! I agree with the “Meat and Potatoes” Comment! The niche site duel has helped so many of us, I’d love to see something new along those lines!

    My suggestion for new content would be eBook publishing. Like you, I am publishing for the first time on Kindle, and there is A LOT to learn. You certainly have some insight there.

    As for my niche site, I recently started http://www.freebookcafe.com as my “niche” site. The premise is to simply get Kindle readers the best free books, while utilizing ads and affiliate marketing. I owe it to you for the motivation to get this started! Wish me luck!

    Twitter: @freebookcafe

  • http://gireviews.net Brendan

    i am PSYCHED for the mentorship stuff, Pat.

    And great job with transparency in the ‘Missing Out’ section!

    I think that using your new mastermind group of learners as content would be FANTASTIC and I would be honored if I could be a part of something like that. Keep up the great work!

  • JC

    Looking forward to see where this is all leading, Pat. I like Mindy’s idea on starting a collective on mentoring bloggers. I think one of the key components for new people is to have someone that holds them accountable.

    I like the idea of having you explain how you put teams together. That would be a great learning tool for people who think they have to do everything on their own. I’d be interested to see what makes yours different than mine – perhaps learning a thing or two as well!!

    Also, what are your thoughts on software pieces like Dragon Dictate?

  • http://edtechking.com/ Kris King

    Pat, I would love to see more case studies. As an educator myself, I can honestly see that you have a true teacher’s heart. I know that is why you and your brand is so successful. You teach, giving way more than you are required, and in return you have a huge fan base. Your case studies are what got me hooked and I would love to see more examples, step-by-step of what you do. Learning from your reflection and feedback helps so many! Keep up the great work!

  • http://emilyjacques.com Emily

    It’s hard to keep up a blog with constantly compelling posts. I empathize.

    FWIW, I love your current blog design. Have a great holiday!

    • Pat Flynn

      Thanks Emily! :)

  • http://TwitterHQ.com Scott @ TwitterHQ


    I think you have still kept the “flavor” of the blog alive and well and then some. I do agree that the duel and other content that we can implement in our own business is the best. You have so much GREAT content on here I find myself going back and re-reading or watching things as they relate to my projects. Thanks for everything you do, I appreciate it!

    Looking forward to a wonderful 2013, Have a great Christmas with the Family!


    • Pat Flynn

      Thanks Steve, I appreciate that! Merry Christmas to you and yours too!

  • Kaj

    Hey Pat,
    I am really thrilled to hear about your new plans to present more casestudies. I totally agree with Joshua and I could have said exactly the same. I have been following you ever since I started building niche sites 1,5 years ago. Actually your case study of Securityguardtraininghq.com has been of major influence the way I look at niche sites. That’s why this is the first time I post a comment, because I want to give you my full support for your plans for 2013. I must confess I started to visit SPI less and less, and found myself more satisfied with what Spencer was writing about. Of course I still visit SPI on a weekly basis and check your blogposts. But again, I love your new plans, it gives me something to look out for! I am also very curious about the new design. Just wanted to let you know.
    Take care! Happy holidays!

    • Pat Flynn

      Thank you for your honesty Kaj! Hopefully you’ll be more enthusiastic about SPI in 2013. Cheers and happy holidays to you too!

  • http://foodcyclist.com John from FoodCyclist


    Good to hear what you have in store. The Niche Site Duel certainly helped me a lot as I develop my website(s). Your podcast still stands out as my favorite thing you do. You content is amazing, I’m just working outdoors a lot and I like being able to digest the information that way.

    I really like the case studies. I liked when you had a topic to cover, and you used a case study to help showcase that topic (ex. Clif Ravenscraft and Podcasting). Keep it up with the case studies on the blog and on the podcast. Gives perspective.



    • Pat Flynn

      Thanks John! I appreciate your confirmation that this is the right direction.I did enjoy creating the podcasting tutorial which I know a lot of people appreciated. More to come!

  • https://twitter.com/MosesKerub Moses

    I’m already excited about the future of SPI. Sounds great!

    About the design, I have some things to say.
    As you said, your current design is definitely doing its job, but the urge to reorganize and make things newer is totally understood.
    You said that you are working with Chase Reeves and he’s a great designer however I’m “afraid” of the outcome…
    You see, the new Think Traffic looks good, however it lost its magic. It’s hard to explain (and I tried to on the post Corbett published the the new designed rolled out) but it’s as if it lost its personality. I used to go there and couldn’t get out of it, but now I just go to consume the great content and leave.

    I think I can speak for the masses and say that we love the SPI “personality” so please try to keep it.

    On a side note, I know you are very busy but I had to email you about an idea I have that I’m sure you would love (it isn’t any pitch or some sort of business offer), I sent it pretty long ago (more than a month) via the contact form on your site, and I have no clue whether you got my mail or not.

    Should I resend it to you using another method to ensure you see it?

    I actually think I have another idea for the future of SPI that I would love to share :)

    Can’t wait for 2013 SPI to begin!

    • Pat Flynn

      I’m going to be a part of the design process 100% of the way and I will not be happy if I lose the current feel and personality of the site – I wouldn’t go live with a design unless it had those elements.

      About the email, my apologies. With the baby and such I havent been able to get back to people as quickly as I’d like to. Its definitely backed up more than a month’s worth, unfortunately. I appreciate you!

      • https://twitter.com/MosesKerub Moses

        I’m not worried then :) you have a great sense of design taste from what i’ve seen.

        Thanks for the answer Pat. It’s totally understood and of couse, babies first! hehe
        Happy holidays!

  • http:/TailoredWP.com Ricardo

    Hey Pat,
    I’m looking forward to all the new stuff.
    I hope the new website is as functional as this one, and you better don’t change the resources page ( unless you update or add new stuff :) )

  • http://www.myworkathomeventures.com Melissa @ My Work At Home Ventures

    I am so looking forward to see what changes are in store for 2013. I love your site, your podcasts! I never really thought about it when you asked the question on Facebook, but I do have to agree with Joshua. I think about it now, and I really haven’t read as many of your blog posts since I finished reading the Niche site duel posts. I haven’t really felt I’m missing out either. I do, however, go back to the niche site duel posts to brush up on info I need as I’m building my money site at the moment. I have also been listening to your podcasts too, so that takes away from me feeling like I NEED to read blog posts. Anyway, I do love the site though, and I can’t wait to see what you have in store for the upcoming year!

  • Steve Kent

    Great post. Like the others, I enjoy reading and hearing what you have to say but the most useful content was the niche site duel. Most people here are looking for instruction and seeing real life examples of successes and even failures with analysis of why it works or doesn’t would be of tremendous value. Perhaps a new duel with your followers posting their status in a forum like format might be fun and useful.

  • Lynn Lewis

    Awesome 2013 plans! I was only half paying attention during the “duel” and still afraid, at that time, to take action. I’m further along now; more confident, more knowledgeable, less fearful. I’ve been on the hunt for a local as well as virtual mastermind group also.

  • http://reneebaude.com Renee@Joyful Mom

    I find your website to be an incredible resource. My full time job is a wife and mom to 4 homeschool kids–my part time job is my website–so when you talk about your little ones I fast forward your life to mine and wonder what your podcasts will sound like :-) (I just listened to the one about finding balance) I’m a Tribewriter with Jeff Goins, I love the structure of the class that he offers and I learn so much when I come here. My kids can now recognize your voice on the podcast vs. Jeff’s! I so admire your honesty in creating SPI. Whatever you do it will be a success.

    Be Blessed.

  • http://youronline.biz Darnell Jackson

    Big up to what you’re doing and where you’re going Pat all the best to you in 2013.

    The jury speaks and …. it’s Thesis 2.0?

    Uh oh the debate rages on.

    Which platform is best?

    Either way I agree with you in design less is more.

  • http://alexandreb.net Alexandre B

    Hi Pat,
    I can’t wait for the new SPI design, do you have an ETA ?
    Mentoring a small group of readers (or action takers) will be very fulfilling for you. I imagine that you’ll also learn a lot of things along the way.

    Would you consider to mentor foreign people too ? (english speakers of course). If so, I’ll be honored to apply :)

    Whatever happens, keep going Pat.
    Alex from France

  • http://www.familyrocketship.com Sean

    Hey Pat – looking forward to the new changes! With your “learning group” are you thinking a membership site?

    I for one would be down. Perhaps some place where those who want could learn more intimately with you and even perhaps have a level of accountability? Just tossen it out there!


  • http://NoGym.net Christopher Walker

    Can’t wait to see what you have coming out next year Pat! Always love everything you write but, like Joshua, those resource-packed guides are what impresses me most and keeps me checking back often :)


  • http://www.freeaudacitytutorials.com Carey

    Good on ya Pat… for going back to the case studies! We all need and want that kind of stuff!

  • http://www.musicproductionhq.com Jamie Huff

    I love the direction you plan to head. Your podcast is what got me to your website and from their the Niche site duel is what kept me. By providing valuable information I searched out affiliate links (Blue host, UAW) to help you when I was ready to move forward with my own site. I will continue to do this as well when I am ready for more products like market samurai and the Thesis 2.0.

    Your site as well is the reason why I have a website and am very motivated to make it work. I was on another subscription site that first introduced me to the ideas but I spun my wheels for at least 2 years and never took action. Seeing an ” every day guy” that is taking action and is crushing it is a huge motivator. I may have just launched my site but I know that with hard work I will be able to create passive income just like you have.

    The mast mind ground would be amazing and I would love to be apart of it for those things that I am just not sure about. I would also love to share what I have learned with others as well.

    If you start a Niche site duel 2.0 I would love to be part of it as it is yet another way to stay focused and driven. That or maybe you pick one person and coach them through the processes and use it as a case study. Just another idea as I think it would be very cool to see someone else that you coached go from zero to hero in their respected niche.

    Keep on keeping on your doing an amazing job so far!
    Jamie Huff

  • http://www.apocalypsestrawsolutions.com Bill Campbell

    Congratulations on another stellar year! Interviewed by NY times, local news, and mentioned in Forbes = Awesome! That goes along way in providing social proof.

    I would also love to see some more niche site duels – maybe go head to head with some of your readers.

    Here’s to more of your success in 2013!

    Bill Campbell

  • http://viamaverick.com/how-to-face-your-fear-of-success/ Chris Altamirano

    I agree 100% with Josh! When I first came across the SPI BLOG back in late 2010 I ate the niche site duel up. I remember talking to my friend who was all into direct response marketing (and still is till this day) about creating a niche site from scratch and really investing some time in it.

    Basically I was VERY excited of what could be accomplished if “I just followed Pat.”

    I think that’s what’s been lacking this past year on the blog. I never really kicked myself in the butt for missing one of your blog posts. I’m sure every SPI reader, including myself, would appreciate the start to finish tutorials and guides on how to “get it done.”

    All the best Pat


    – Chris Altamirano

  • http://www.geekshirtshq.com ASIM Sheikh

    Hi Pat,

    I agree with the comments in the Facebook post that you published. I personally would love the idea of the mastermind group as I need to get to the next level as my blog feels stagnated in the number of visits I am receiving. Big fan of your blog and I followed the niche site dual initially to set up my t shirt blog but now google has moved the goal posts with its recent updates, I would love a series of posts taking a site from 0 visitors to something everyone could manage maybe 1000 a day and the traffic attraction strategies used

  • http://www.aktivfundraising.dk Steffen Gregersen

    I like the reply by Joshua Natella. I started following you just before the Niche Site duel, and since the duel, I have checked your site several times a week, to see if there is a new post.
    But lately, there goes longer and longer in between I check your site. I’m not afraid of missing something new anymore :( And I liked to be that :)

    And don’t take me wrong !! I really love your posts (also the new ones)… But some posts miss a little meat og how-to.

    All best wishes to you and your family :)

  • https://twitter.com/cpc_rick Rick Backus

    Let me know how to apply for the mastermind group Pat.

    I recently joined the San Diego Chapter of EO (www.eonetwork.org) and there is something extremely powerful that happens when you tackle each other’s problems as a peer group.

    Our office is located in Mission Valley. Let me know if you want to grab lunch after the Holidays.

  • http://www.smartbusinessrevolution.com John Corcoran

    Looking forward to great things in 2013, Pat.

    I loved the niche site duel and I agree with Joshua. I’ve thought before it would be great if you did a niche site duel once a year, at the same time each year. Kind of like you do your passive income report on the 1st of each month – it would give people something to come back for on an annual basis.

  • http://internationalgraduates.org Hassan

    Hey Pat,

    Awesome post as usual, just wanted to let you know that I like your idea about the closed groups and the idea of having someone run your automated businesses. How would you go about selecting who is going to take over?


  • http://wpthemesdaily.com Robert

    Hi Pat, I am really impressed with your transparency, especially with the niche site duel series and I hope there will be more public case studies like this can be done to show people who have very little experiences like me how stuff really works :)

    Good luck with 2013 and hope your family will be happy together forever

  • http://bibledifferences.net Herman Grobler

    Pat, I don’t make a penny from my blog or even have the prospect of doing so in the future. The causes for the differences between older versions of the Bible and modern versions interests only a few people, and not some potential money-spinner. But I love your posts.
    You say you are not someone special, but your honesty and humility combined with pure logical tackling of issues is what drives me to your blog every week. Thank you for being Pat Flynn, and husband and father and allowing us to have a little peek into the life of who you really are. You are special!
    I pray a God blessed 2013 on you and your family, both in real life and here on the blog!

  • http://www.popularblogsite.com Vince

    Hey Pat, I have been reading your blog for a few weeks now and listening to the podcast. It’s great that you leave all the archives up because I missed out on you sooner but I’m glad I’m aboard now! Thanks for everything you are doing. Not only are you making great money, your helping a blogging community.

  • http://digitaldomination.com Steve Fitzpatrick

    Hey Pat,

    I’d love to know what elements of your site you feel are most important and what you’re trying to achieve with the new web design most of all.

    You know your audience better than anyone, plus the way you monetise your blog. So what are the major changes you need to make to your current design?

  • http://hacerapps.com victor

    a mobile version of the blog will be a good idea maybe have it responsive just my point of view

    hope we survive friday lol (jk)

  • Nathan DeMelo

    Hey Pat
    To be honest this is the first post that I have read, beyond your niche site duel post. I am elbow deep going through the steps of finding a niche for myself. I haven’t had time to read your current post. That being said I think the direction you have outlined sounds great. The niche site duel is a fantastic resource of information unlike any that I have found elsewhere online. As soon as I’m done with this comment I’m signing up for Market Samurai and doing some keyword research. Hopefully I will have a niche soon. I’m 99% excited 1% scared or maybe 1% excited 99% scared. Either way I’m going to build my own website.
    On a side note Pat I can understand the busy house hold. I have 2 boy myself. One is the 13 months the other 5 weeks. It gets crazy a times but I wouldn’t trade it for the world. Those boys are the reason I will be up all night studying and learning about online business. My wife asked me what makes you want to do all this work I said “I work hard now so I can sit back and reap the benefits later.” Merry Christmas to you and your family Pat. Thanks for the hard work you put in NOW!
    Merry Christmas everyone else too!
    Nathan DeMelo

  • http://jarodonline.wordpress.com Jarod Billingslea

    Personally, although you can’t mentor everybody that would like you are their mentor, I think you can at least make it possible for the community to interact and communicate with each other. It seems like a lot of like minded people reside on this website, which makes it seem like a good idea that having the community connect with each other (as a support system) would be a pretty good idea. Well, it wouldn’t have to be entirely like that, but there is an idea in there. Everybody benefit because we all know what we want to do with our blogs, but we don’t know anybody that’s doing it already and are facing the same obstacles as the others… It kind of like growing together. Can’t really explain it enough.

  • Kevin Dahlberg

    Love the blog. Sounds like a very exciting 2013 coming up for you. The blog redesign is going to be cool to see. I’ve dabbled in thesis 2.0, and it’s a very powerful theme. Looking forward to the changes.

  • http://www.efficientlifeskills.com Joseph Michael

    Hey Pat,

    I admire your willingness to put yourself out there the way you do. I have to agree, your niche site dual type posts where you hold our hand and walk us through complicated processess are hard to beat. I find myself referring back to them often. Not only are they helpful but I have learned to model many of my own posts from them. On a side note I am sort of a graphic design nerd so I would also be interested to see the changes you make with your site design.

    Hope you and the family have a Merry Christmas

  • http://websitebuddha.com David >> Website Buddha

    Looking forward to the redesign! In terms of meat and potatoes perhaps you could start a web hosting reseller business. Though I understand that this might be risky as you make an incredible amount of money from affiliate sales of web hosting.

    All the best Pat.

  • http://www.professionalcontentcreation.com Rebecca Livermore

    I love the direction you’re heading, Pat. And I especially love the learning group idea. We really do much better when others are involved in our growth and development and also when we are involved in the growth and development of others. It can be super motivating!

  • http://livefrei.com Jesse @ Live Frei

    Hey Pat,

    I am a aircraft mechanic by trade. I really just wanted to do something with my wife for fun and that’s why we started a blog. I used a lot of your advice/material to piece it together. You’ve been great, we even started making just a little money from our blog, I think this month is our biggest ever at $15.78 so far. Money really was not the main push anyways but it’s cool to see. As an outsider looking in, I am constantly captivated by what you are doing and saying and often wonder how you juggle it all. It sounds like the direction you want to go will be great. I listen to your podcast on my way home from work on the night shift; I am still trying to catch up to the most recent ones. Thanks for what you’ve done for my wife and I.

    Merry Christmas!

  • http://www.h4hitech.com Sapna

    HI Pat

    I dont know whether I will get a reply for this comment or not. I have started my blog and I am very satisfied with the way things are going but I need to learn the marketing skills from you.



  • http://www.codeconquest.com/ Charles @ CodeConquest.com

    I’m always a big fan of these kinds of teaser posts, so thank you for sharing Pat. I’m looking forward to the redesign, but I’m not a big fan of Think Traffic’s look. Everything is too big and seems ‘magnified’, you can’t really look at the site at a distance if you know what I mean. I agree with what Moses said also, it seems kind of cold and uninviting especially with the black header. I wouldn’t go too similar to that if I were you.

  • Tipjar

    I feel like I’m echoing what others have said here, but yes, I agree that this blog has strayed from what I originally came here for. I still believe your Niche Site Duel posts were your best stuff here.

    Not only were the Niche Site Duel posts extremely helpful, but I felt like I could take something away from those, something that was actionable and I could use for my own ventures. Even before the Niche Site Duel posts, where you would update us about how you were earning with eHow, or how you’d be making passive income with your Green Exam Academy site, I still felt like I could take something away from those.

    As others have said, I think your blog posts lately have been lacking one element: I can’t take anything away from those posts. With the Niche Site Duel posts, I felt like I could do exactly as you did, following each step of the way.

    I feel like lately there’s been an influx of guest posts, personal posts, and podcasts. While I think it’s great if you were in a movie, are using Leadplayer, had a speaking engagement, were featured in a book, reached 50,000 subscribers, or took up archery, there really isn’t anything I can take away from those posts. I find myself reading your income reports more than anything just to try and get ideas for ways I can earn like you do.

    I understand there’s really only so much you can write about within the scope of passive income, I guess I’d just like to see more case studies and things that are real and actionable. I actually thought you were going to be doing that with your purchased niche site, but that sort of died off.

  • Michael

    Ha, here you are Pat. You’ve come a long way, starting from scratch with beeing a participant in one of your mentioned mastermind-groups. And now, few years later, you’re thinking about starting your own one. I wish you the best of luck with what’s to come for you, your business and your family.

    kind regards,


  • Jessica

    Very excited to hear about getting into the deep content again! I never realized until reading this that I had been feeling exactly the same as him. You’re podcasts are still detailed, as are your videos, but yes the content… not so much. You are great at sharing, and writing it out so that we can understand so cheers to 2013 and hope it’s a great one for ya!!

  • http://www.iresl.com/ Iain Robson

    It is always great to take a step back and refocus what you are working on. Sometimes we plow in one direction, and don’t stop to look back. I am glad that you are taking a moment to look your site over.

    In regards to the new niche site duel I love the idea. I am relatively new to your site and read through your niche site duel. One of the things that I noticed as I was reading through it was the fact that it was done a while ago. Unfortunately, technology moves at a break net pace, so I often second guess the practices that were used in previous years. However, that is not to say the information wasn’t very helpful because it was never fear.

    Needless to say, I am happy that you are going to be doing something like the niche site duel so that newer readers, like myself, can follow along in the process,and, hopefully, make something awesome.

    Keep up the great work Pat.

  • http://www.dylanvarian.com Dylan Varian

    I am looking very forward to the new niche site duel. Looks like there are some awesome things coming for SPI.

    See you in 2013, Pat.

  • http://roguesyndicate.com Nicholas Kahler

    Be very careful as you develop the concept of your ‘learning group’ initiative. There are many of these communities that exist in a variety of markets, and your niche is ripe with scam artists. We trust your intentions.

    The people involved will say that the receive a great deal of value, and will likely pay for a subscription if you made it available. However, giving tactics to a bunch of highly motivated people still doesn’t lead to results. Actions do.

    Success tends to grow on itself. You can try to sow the seeds and raise the next crop of internet entrepreneurs, just acknowledge that you’re going to have quite a few dreams that never take root, and it isn’t your fault. It’s just life.

  • http://seekdefo.com george@seekdefo

    Excellent post. Its amazing to see that the potential for growth never ends

  • http://LouisvilleGalsRealEstateBlog.com Sharon Vornholt

    Pat – I am absolutely sure that whatever you do, it will be awesome. I have learned so much from you! I especially liked some of the challenges you had in the past. They helped me to move outside my comfort zone for sure.


  • http://savingtoberich.com Daria @ Saving to be Rich

    LOVE IT!! I can’t wait to see the case studies and the mastermind group is something I’ve wanted to start on one of my blogs for group life coaching/executive coaching type discussions – love your *aims* and can’t wait to follow along.

  • http://thinkbusinessblog.com Ancuta

    Hi Pat,
    The truth is that people love stories. And your series with the niche site duel ‘compel people to read’ indeed.
    But I wanted to tell you that I’ve anyway loved to read your posts (even those nice ones!). I came back several times to some of your older posts – some of them are evergreen.
    The best thing you’re doing (at least for me) is keeping me motivated.
    Thanks! Wish you all the best,

  • http://Www.dagenislab.com Brian Kwong

    Pat, love the direction that you are going and I would lovvvvve to be in the mastermind group. Can’t wait for the application and interview. Do you have an idea when that will start?

    Merry Christmas!

  • http://www.void-life.com bryan wassel

    awesome pat! I would love to see another niche site duel. maybe invite others to compete in as long as then keep record as to what they do. I know I would personally be in on that. Also, I am always happy to have some more case studies that help me decide where I am going to put my attention.

  • http://www.onwaweb.com Obinna

    It would be great to get more case studies from you, Pat.

  • http://www.smarthelping.com Jason Varner


    If you accept that offer for your security guard training site, you are crazy. Generally, you would look at a cap rate of 12% as a good starting number to figure out the right purchase price of an asset that has monthly income coming in. Cap rate is just how much your site brings in per year divided by the purchase price.

    Lol, If you average 2,500/month, that absolute minimum you should accept is $150,000 and that is crazy at a cap rate of 20%. I am interested in managing all your online assets for some revenue share. If you want to talk more, just let me know in some way. I work on my own internet things and know what needs to be done to sustain and grow sites. I am an accountant / business decision analytical guy. Also, I have been working online for 3 years intensely. I have about 1,100 pages I have written myself just to get my brands off the ground.

    Looking forward to a conversation.

  • http://grayrabbitcapital.com Dave

    I finally got off of my duff and started to really dig into your site and apply your techniques to my own site more than just here and there. I have probably heard every podcast at least twice some multiple times. There is already more meat to chew on than I can handle. 2013 is going to be another great year for all of us. Thank you for what you have already done.

  • http://www.KathyRobinsonsBlog.com Kathy

    Pat I must admit I’m very new to reading your posts. And each time I’ve come from Tiffany Dow’s blog. I’m impressed with what I’ve seen. I obviously can’t comment on your niche site duels but they sound interesting. From reading some other comments, I see I need to start listening to your podcasts.

    I’m looking forward to getting to know you better. I trust Tiffany’s recommendations.

  • http://www.Shebuildsabusiness.com Susan

    Hi Pat,
    I must admit, the niche site duel is what drew me into your blog. I first heard about you through Jaime Tardy’s podcast, so I decided to check out your blog. I found the niche site duel series and was hooked. Since then, I’ve found a lot of great content on your site and continue to come back, but it definitely was the niche site duel that got me in the door! Keep up the good work!

  • http://www.yourbossblows.com Bryan Knowlton

    Wow, I am even more excited about the coming 2013! You know I will be one of the first to apply to your ‘Learning Group’. Very cool idea as I have been trying to create a private mastermind group for a while now, but have not gotten anywhere with it.

    Luckily I do have a group of friends in the affiliate marketing area that I am able to bounce ideas off of and help each other out, but I would LOVE to be part of your learning group and will be sure to apply when it becomes available.

    Thanks again Pat! Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!


  • http://blog.quickfireposters.com Karen

    Sounds really good, Pat. I love case studies and learning along with people. What I really like about your blog is that you always told us when you had made a mistake or things weren’t up to your expectations. That kind of honesty is pretty rare.

    I’m really psyched about your plans for a Mastermind group. Along with 5000 other readers, I’m sure! I’ll be very excited to hear more details next year.

    Happy Christmas and New Year to you and your family. Christmas is so special with young children around – enjoy every minute of it!


  • http://TheBusinessSuccessFactory.com Nicola Cairncross

    Hi Pat, great post and some great comments too which have led to a bit of an epiphany about my own blogging direction for 2013 so thanks to all of you!

    About your blog, Pat, I agree with those above who say don’t go too slick and corporate, don’t lose the soul from your design. Your site is colourful, professional looking but still personal somehow – that’s important as many sites get slicker and more corporate looking. I’ve deliberately kept my site simple and almost homemade looking – although I’m dying to jazz it up a bit – because there are not many real authentic voices in this “make money online” world and your site needs to declare you as one the moment someone arrives.

    I rate your site up there on my “must visit list” along with Yaro’s “Entrepreneurs Journey”, Glen’s “Viperchill”, Marion & Judith’s “Entrepreneur Soul” and Rich Schefren’s “Strategic Profits” and Rich is a great example of what to do to create original authentic blog content when you don’t have time to write necessarily.

    He’s been working with Pete Williams to leverage everything you do (Google Pete’s presentation at Ed Dale’s event in Oz in 2012) turning audio and video content into blog content – it’s awesome.

    I’ve adopted some of their methods – as I’ve been too busy in the last six months building a Digital Marketing Agency here in the UK – to blog. But I really miss writing and the connection you get with your readers…

    However, as I say, been too busy really and I lost my way a bit on the content as the only kind of blogging I really enjoy is sharing what I’m really doing to build a business, what works, what doesn’t, how I’m feeling about things etc..

    Reading the comments above, I feel like you guys have given me permission to carry on doing just that – so thank you so much.

    And it’s what I enjoy reading most too, real live examples, along with the success stories (your jazz interview was great and I sent it to my jazz singing sister who blogs, for inspirtation for her) and also, think about perhaps talking about the mental challenges of starting a site/blog and things like time management, overcoming outsourcing obstacles etc…

    As Rich says, “that which is most personal is also most general” and I’m always fascinated by what makes successful people able to overcome the negative / limiting thoughts and feelings we all feel from time to time.

    In short *grin* keep up the good work and enjoy your family too!

    Warm regards

  • http://www.babyflathead.org/ Sarah D

    Some great ideas and looking forward to SPI 2013!

    What about a kind of group case study? A 60 or 90 day group challenge, let your readers play along. Everyone starts a new niche site at the same time, and you give some guidelines on what to do each week, with some options. So for keyword research, people can pick from different sets of criteria for example. When it comes to backlinking, offer a few different approaches, each person chooses one. People update along the way with their progress, and see where everyone ends up at the end.

  • Adam

    Good update and glad to hear the course forward will include more “over the shoulder” style learning opportunities.

    I also came across your site for the first time due to the niche site duel and really look forward to more meat and potato type information.

    Thanks for all the good stuff Pat, happy holidays, and have a good 2013!

  • http://thisisinspired.com Derek

    Hey Pat,

    I agree with everyone else: The niche site duel was a fantastic series, and I learned quite a bit, even after having been a subscriber to Adam Short (the old NPC, not the new one). I’m no stranger to online marketing so – being honest here – a lot of the stuff posted, including by other big blogs (Problogger, et al) in the online marketing business, I either skim through or skip over because I have more important things to work on (no offense intended). Your Niche Site Duel I read word for word and have come back to several times for reference – I love factual, step-by-step things and I think a lot of your readers prefer this content also.

    My feedback (take for what it’s worth!) is I’d LOVE to see (1) a new niche site duel after the Panda/Penguin updates at Google and the impact to traffic generation, or (2) a different type of ‘duel’ if you will: Product launch, or something.

    Just my thoughts. At any rate, the content you post is always top shelf. I really appreciate your ability to just ‘be the normal guy.’ All the best from snow western NY!

  • http://www.tiffanydow.com/blog Tiffany

    Hey Pat! Thanks for being transparent and showing others that it’s okay to share faults or the fact that someone pointed out something we’re not doing right.

    It means you’re trustworthy. I don’t trust people who act like they’re perfect and never need to change. I had my own revelation about my own blog losing its meat and potatoes appeal – no one pointed it out but I noticed it. Once I repaired it (recently), opt ins grew (and stayed), social media accounts started growing a bit, comments soared over what they were, and people are just happier.

    I had gotten wrapped up in just sharing my experience rather than motivating and looking at my readers’ needs and now I’m back to doing both.

    Good luck with it! 😉

  • http://exs24samples.com/ Dave G

    Seems like the time and place to post this maybe it’s not meant as a criticism just a question I’ve been mildy curious about for a while: would you consider doing any stuff on some less common passive income streams (less common for newbie internet marketing types anyway): royalties, patents, drop shipping and investments, I’ve even seem trademarks mentioned – maybe if these are not things you’ve dabbled in enough yet to feel ok with offering advice on, perhaps some experiments might be good :) Whatcha think?

  • Lance White

    Hi Pat, Great post. I agree that the niche site duel was absolutely ‘core business’. I would love to see you doing real world case studies that explore making money online. Ideally passive. It still seems hard to do. Most things seem to require a lot of work to ensure the business does not drop off the vine. Why not go out on a limb try new things. What about automated stock investing systems. Perhaps testing some other vendors/online marketers systems to see if they can make money? I am so keen to learn what works. Regards and appreciate your work, Lance

  • http://www.internetmarketingstories.com Conor

    I’m just looking forward to great post from you Pat. Hope that there will be more high quality posts with high beneficial factors in 2013.

    Thanks for great posts in 2012. They were extremely good!!

  • Derrick

    I am one of those who dont like your current SPI design especially the sidebar.l am also looking forward to your next niche duel as it will teach us a lot about post panda /penguin/EMD backlinking for success.

  • http://www.divcomgroup.com Joshua Natella

    Hey Guys,

    Glad I checked in today. I am honored that Pat found my feedback so useful. I really try to be honest and fair with my feedback, and while there’s 100 positive things I could say about the blog, I can only imagine how tough it must be for Pat at this point to think about how to improve things given his level of success.

    Figured I’d give a different perspective. Just so you know Pat, your niche site duel gave me the SEO basics to start my own consulting company. A year later we now do SEO/PPC/Analytics as well as Lead Generation.

    Honored to be mentioned

  • http://www.mypersonalfinancejourney.com/ Cherleen @ My Personal Finance Journey

    I agree with you. We cannot teach and rescue all those who come and ask for help, but the blog posts and its content should help them. When I was a newbie in blogging, I tried to learn by myself all the basic stuff that I need. Along the way, I met some bloggers who gave their tips and insights, which helped me improve my blog and writing style. Experimenting on the design and content will also help you realize which one works for you and which one does not. Way to go!

  • http://goldandsilverpassiveincome.com Tom

    I always check your post for new ideas and truly understand how busy you can be, With two kids, that really will change your routine. Looking forward to 2013.


  • http://blog.ciriongroup.com Justin Westbrooks

    Incredibly excited! Thanks for all that you’ve done this year. You’ve helped me in tremendous ways, and I’m only one person! It’s great to see you’re taking the suggestions and desires of your audience and putting them ahead of your own – true humility. Thanks for the example you set for my young company and everyone else who’s following you. Pat Flynn for the win!

    Justin Westbrooks

  • Matt Rosendaul

    I think I may have found you originally from the LEED site you created. I’m a HERS Rater doing mostly ENERGY STAR ratings and other energy and sustainability consulting. My business is gangbusters right now, but I’m planning the next stage. My goal is to transition to an online business model over the next three years, a goal well within reach because of your efforts.

    What I’m crazy about/don’t change:
    -Interviews on the podcast with key players in the industry
    -Videos about technology and software tools
    -Your monthly income report and lessons learned

    What I’m not crazy about or can’t offer praise for (because everything is top notch in my eyes, nothing stinks)
    -regular blog posts. I think I’ve only read one of them. Easier to digest the podcasts and videos (because I’m a guy, and a visual learner/global thinker) then I go to the notes or transcript if I need a link or detail.
    -The podcast interviews with people making money online but not talking about making money online. Nice testimonial stock, but you had me at hello.
    -Connecting to you via Facebook. It might be convenient for you, but I’m spending a lot less time on Facebook and I don’t envision that trend changing anytime soon. I turned off the push notifications from it long ago, and never run it in the background because its more of a distraction than a productive tool.

    Just my 2¢ since I’m going to be dialed into your content pretty heavily in 2013.


  • http://www.optionstradingiq.com GM

    Absolutely would love to see some more in depth case studies Pat. I actually just went back a few days ago and read all your niche site dual posts. Very good stuff and still relevant.

  • http://diymusicbiz.com Greg Savage


    I agree Josh and I would love to see more case studies as I feel I get the most from them. I too stumbled across your site through a keyword (or 2) that lead right to the Niche Duel Competition.

    I think you design is nice but I’m not one to decline an upgrade, especially if it improves the current state of your operation.

    Will this Mastermind be via Skype (that would be great)

  • http://oneyeartolaunch.com Chino

    Hi Pat, I actually don’t remember anymore how I came to your site. But man, I’ve downloaded all the podcast episodes and kept on listening to them over and over for tips and experiences that I can apply to my own projects. I’m currently working for a company but would also want to eventually live on multiple streams of passive income by building multiple websites that share my love for learning languages and teaching people about investing, something you’ve done with Green Exam Academy and in a lot of ways, the Smart Passive Income Blog. Even if I don’t achieve that soon, your blog and your podcast remains to be one of the most inspiring AND entertaining!

    Keep up the good work and we look forward for more in 2013!

  • http://www.edwardglassman.com Edward G


    Excellent post here. I feel you on the wanting to help everyone out who request coaching. It’s just not humanly possible. I wish you all the best with the new design and your blogging / affiliate efforts in 2013.

    Talk Soon,


  • http://perfectearningtips.com IGBALAYE OLAYEMI

    2013 is a new year and everybody expect new things, so i agree with the idea of new look and am sure that it will really help your site further. i also agree with the case study which will really help a lot of newbies out there. i wish you a success year ahead and thanks for sharing this.

  • http://start-your-web-site.com Tim Hague

    Hi Pat,
    Your new direction sounds grat although I love the blog already and so look forward to all the content no matter what the subject. I will say as someone who’s just starting and has not yet broken the “Make Money” barrier I’m very excited about more meat and potatoes. One suggestion, consider one of your mastermind groups to include folks that already have full time jobs and families and see if we can define/prove a method for our kind of folks to break the barrier and really make it online. Best of luck in the new year, can’t wait to see what’s coming:)
    Best regards,

  • http://www.ManVReality.com Chris

    Thanks for all your hard work, it has been such an inspiration to so many. I know that a huge reason why I am working at launching my own site/blog/podcast/brand is because of you.
    I’m sure that there will be many applying as soon as you of your mentorship program, and I will be one of them.
    Thanks again, and here’s to another awesome year in 2013.

  • Michelle Hall

    I was just thinking today how I would love to have 30 minutes of your time to go over all the questions I have about my Blog! I’m brand spanking new at this, learning every single thing as I go along (many thanks to you for helping me believe in myself and providing so many tools along the way) and I just wish I could speed things up a bit with same quick & easy answers! But I am having a blast figuring it out and watching my blog take form! Anyhow, I love the idea of doing more of what you did with the nitch site duel!!! Reading that was more than helpful to getting me off my feet and into action. But no matter what you do, I’m a fan for life!

  • http://tekkbuzzdigitalmedia.com/grand-rapids-lead-generation-with-content-marketing/ Deborah Richmond

    I am a huge fan of mastermind groups. I was involved in one last year and found it very helpful. I also found a direct mentor to help me with my offline sales concepts and strategies. This is an area he has lots of experience, and is willing to share with me.

    I know your groups are going to get as much from each other as they do from you!

    I love the podcast and look forward to every one!

  • Rotem

    This is crazy. I’m not sure what I would do if I got so many comment on a post… I’m guessing you stopped reading after #20 or so (so you won’t get to this one anyway).

    • Pat Flynn

      I read them all :)

  • http://www.hot-earnings.com/ Heru Prasetyono

    Your thoghts and experiences will give me inspiration how to manage my blog so it can grow well. We may have different goal to reach but you can give good motivation by sharing your brilliant ideas. Thank you Pat.

  • Rus Anderson

    I about broke out into a sweat when I read that you may start a learning group. I hope you will do this and I hope even more that I can be a part of it. I’ll be watching the newsletter extra close for this announcement.

    Thanks for all you’re wisdom, Pat! Have a safe new year!

  • http://sunny-susan.blogspot.com/ Sunny

    This is such a great idea Pat, I really like how you are constantly looking for ways to improve and grow your blog because I have learned so much from you sharing your experiences. The niche site duel is one of my favorite case studies as well, it really helps to see how everything works together from start to finish and then monitor those results as time goes on. I will definitely be following your new ventures and re-design, exciting times ahead.

  • http://www.blogonza.com/ Omar Habib

    Thanks Pat! I agree with the “Meat and Potatoes” Comment! The niche site duel has helped so many of us, I’d love to see something new along those lines!

  • Brandi

    I really enjoy reading the site but would prefer less posts (maybe weekly) with more action oriented content. Ideally, I would like to learn something to implement and then have a couple of days to actually do it before reading a new post with more great insight.

  • http://makingmusicfun.net Andy Fling

    Hey Pat,
    Thanks for the opportunity to offer a suggestion for a blog post series. Your podcast on iPhone apps got me motivated to finally build the iPad app that I’ve been thinking about for awhile now.

    It would be great to read an in depth series that follows you through your next app, including working with the developer, App Store submission, and marketing.


  • http://www.freedigitalphotographytutorials.com Stephen Hockman @ FreeDPT

    I love the direction you are taking your blog in the coming year. Especially adding more niche site duel topics. That was a great series to read and learn from. I also agree that approach is better for others to learn from then random Top 10 Tips, etc. I don’t like those as much because you have to piece all of the information together. Having case studies shows people exactly what works, what doesn’t, and why it is so!

    I’m looking forward to reading your content in the coming year. Already, I have put some things into practice from topics on this blog and it has rewarded me greatly!

    I agree, that some people get discouraged and think that only “Pat” can make money online. But the problem is that people don’t realize it can take time to build something successful. It took me 2 years before my website started to take off, and now it is growing rapidly! I learned that I had to put more time and care into the articles I post and actually write content for my subscribers. Not just search engines and its working greatly! Best advice I learned and share… Content and Fans first, and the money will follow :)

  • http://prayerforsuccess.org Emmy Ericsson

    Dear Pat, the niche site duel is my favorite on the spi blog. As a matter of fact, I make reference to it all the time. Anytime I get confused, I just take the part i dont get and go over it all over again. I have built a site that is now ranking between 3 and 4 in google. Though not earning anything yet, am so proud of the whole effort and I’m saying a BIG THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU AND UR FAMILY IN JESUS NAME…

  • http://www.mysonandmoney.com Stacey


    I am soooooooooooooo excited about your 2013 updates!!!


  • http://www.zootravelguide.com Cheryl

    I like the idea of you starting a site from scratch again. The online dynamic changes constantly and newbies (like me) wonder.. “can it STILL be done” or is it “too late” for the newcomer.

    You mentioned keeping the Security Guard site as a way to show new things you’re trying—I think it also shows how it continues to make money down the road. People like to see that the site is still successful and how it’s grown and changed since the Niche Dual.

  • http://retweet.it Steve

    Hi Pat. You are a very interesting guy and appreciate your efforts in helping educate others to learn internet marketing and doing it on such a personal level.

    More experiments would be great this coming year so we can see what is working or not working in regards to real money producing websites. What are the best ways to outsource a team, Best approach to SEO, Best Back Linking strategies now and how to pick the best products and approaches to promote them.

    Thanks Again.

  • Enoch

    Hey, where did the newsletter sign-up checkbox below the comment form go?

  • http://www.bannersbrokerworkers.blogspot.com/ banners broker

    Hi Pat !
    Your site is very nice looking and you have excellent marketing skills !!!
    very interesting articles !
    Thanks !

  • http://7Payouts.com Jeremiah Say

    I feel you Pat. I always wanted to help people too. But feel terrible every time when I turn them down (like you said, it’s humanly impossible).

    Have you considered writing a book (not ebook but real physical book)? If not, maybe you should give this a serious thought. I believe many people will benefit from your book. A book that will teach others how to start a business/blog from home (in general).

    Write a book that will inspire and help others… That way I believe it will help cease your “guilt.”

    I’m looking forward to more quality posts from you in 2013:)

    Your fan (since 2010),

  • http://7Payouts.com Jeremiah Say

    (sorry forget to add this) P.S. Like what you always said “Be everywhere.”

    Writing a physical book is part of being “everywhere.”

  • http://www.maximiseyourdollar.com Mathias

    Having a mastermind group is probably one of the best advice.
    Thanks, and i look forward to more great initiatives from you in 2013!

  • Bibi

    Wow, it sounds like great stuff is coming our way! Thank you :) I would love more practical “smart passive income for dummies” stuff, like the niche site duel thing. I would love that in the form of podcasts and video’s, or maybe an e-book? Oh and more on how to combine things with family life…

  • Andrew Pontius

    Hey Pat, love the direction for 2013. It makes a lot of sense. Given your proven success with the Niche Site Duel, that serves as a great indicator of what people are really looking for. I’m sure you’ve pondered time and again how do you continue to grow – in both knowledge and experience – thus keeping your faithful community engaged, all the while making sure newcomers don’t get lost along the way. I think you’re right on; fine-tuning is indeed the answer (at least for now).

    Looking forward to seeing the new and improved SPI later this coming year.

  • http://www.personalfreedombusiness.com Robin Heinen

    Hi Pat, I must admit, I haven’t read all the comments , I have been reading quite some posts and I think you’re doing a great job as a mentor. I am not sure if you have ever tried, but I think Twitter q&a hours might be worth looking into. I think what many people want is to have a personal answer or advice, beit 140 characters. I think it’s a great way to find out what your readers want and will give ideas for new posts as well. I’d love to engage on Twitter q&a.Best regards, Robin

  • http://marlonsanders.com Marlon Sanders

    Hi Pat,

    I’m very impressed with how you’ve built your brand over time.
    Just fantastic.

    Hey, my 2 cents is that people read you BECAUSE they wanna
    grow their passive income like you have.

    On the traffic side, I think people want to know what works
    now since Google has killed most backlinking strategies.
    It seems like they have pounced on any deliberate
    backlinking strategy.

    And on the monetization side, I think there could be more
    detail on how you get these commissions month in and
    month out from your blog posts.

    My blog posts don’t perform the same way. I’m
    interested in how you keep the commissions coming in
    and growing so steadily.

    Best wishes,


  • http://Poordoctor.com Buck Joffrey

    Pat, I do think you should go back to basics. What made you magnetic to so many of us is that you offered so much substance and value and, at the same time, seemed so authentic. You are still authentic, but you are starting to sound like a lot of the other business podcasts. Part of that is probably because you are interviewing a lot of these guys who are successful but have no soul. Not sure. You’re strength is your ability to teach. I personally would love to see you try new things and teach the rest of us like you used to. In fact, I’m modeling my own blog after the way you used to do this because I liked it so much! Anyway, your still the most trustworthy guy in this space.

  • Paul Tynan

    Yes, the duel was great but I also really enjoyed the interviews with people who had build other and varied types of internet-based businesses. Please keep that up. Hmm, might be interesting to do some short-term public consulting with people who are having difficulties — like Restaurant Impossible or Suzi Orman for internet businesses. You could just point out obvious problems, suggest changes, and promise to check back with them in a month or so. The folks helped would have to promise to publish all that happens.

    I have no website or internet business. I’m just learning about the stuff so I can help my wife launch one in 2013.

  • http://www.eventchecklist.net Event Checklist

    Trying to help other is so nice to hear from you Pat. I truly believe with the value of giving and sharing, just like how this famous sayings goes, “the more you give, the more you receive. Keep it up and I’m sure you’ll receive a lot of blessings this coming new year. Advance Happy new year Pat!

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  • http://CashFlowsTo.com Monty Campbell

    I love the “Mastermind Group” and “Learning Group” concept. I am completely motivated and look forward to hearing more about it. I’m excited about where the blog is going and where it has come from to start. You have motivated me and blessed me with and opportunity well beyond my blog. I am now blessed and charged with helping people beyond my immediate realm. Pat I have you to thank for you. I look forward to seeing you at NMX.

    God Bless.

  • http://CashFlowsToo.com Monty Campbell

    You mentioned speaking engagements. How many conferences will you speak at this year? Which are the most important conference to you and the SPI audience? Are there any on the East cost in 2013?

    Thank You

  • http://freshphotographer.com Richard Neckar

    I have an idea for setting up groups for collaboration on projects. Everyone has different talents and resources, some are good writers, some are good writers but don’t have the commitment to write as often as needed, others are good with websites and web development and others may have the financial resources to fund small projects better than others but may lack time. I myself find that I often have many ideas I want to explore with online business and websites, but I lack the time or constant dedication to the projects, so they often gather dust for a while until my interest returns to them.

    A group could be formed from people with compatible talents and interests who fill in each others gaps, whether it be expertise, financial, or time, etc. and allow them to come together to work on their projects and such. This could be a good integration with your site Pat, maybe setup some type of social gathering where others can chat with other members similar to a membership site but not necessarily with outrageous fees like some charge. Even a nominal fee with many members could turn into a pretty good financial incentive for your site. Also visitors would have one more reason to keep coming back if they were able to meet people to collaborate on projects together.

  • http://www.moneyskillsblog.com Jeremy Jameson

    Getting another ambitious case study on SPI sounds like a great way to shake things up! I’ve been digging deep in revitalizing my own blog lately – doing things like posting more regularly than before, taking backlinking seriously, and thinking critically about what I want to do with my blog in both the near and distant future. I’ve seen small, encouraging signs from the feedback in terms of traffic and my first-ever AdSense earnings, but I recognize that there’s a LOT more I can do to improve.

    I’m eager to see where both our blogs go in 2013. I look to SPI’s treasure trove of content for most of my reference for blogging advice/wisdom and plan to start paying closer attention to what comes up here – especially now that you’re focused on freshening it up. I wish you success in that endeavor, Pat. :)

  • http://microcasthq Samantha Alford

    Hey Pat,

    I was only thinking tonight that I’d love to see another niche site duel since I joined your community too recently to have participated in the first one (even though I have gone through all the material from it!). So very excited at the prospect of joining along with you on the next one. Also, an idea for your mentoring/mastermind groups could be to model in a similar way that Cliff Ravenscraft is doing it – aside from being an all round great guy who knows his stuff, his model seems very scaleable without losing the personal touch. From those groups you could observe over the longer term and identify ‘talent’ to help grow and manage your portfolio. Hope that helps! In any case, I am looking forward to being more action oriented rather than living vicariously through you in 2013!!!

  • http://www.btanet.org Derek Smith

    Cheers for another great year Pat, your blog is such an inspiration to all of us. I can’t wait to see what 2013 holds.

  • Terence Pera

    Hi, Pat Thanks for the article and thanks for guiding me to start a brand new career, but ill fill you in with the details later in the year as i am going down this unknown but exciting path.
    Have a Happy, Prospectus and Successful New Year.
    Terence Pera

  • http://www.squidoo.com/mercury-glass-lamp Ally

    I agree with Joshua that the site has become a little same old, same old recently. A new niche site case study would keep me coming back. For the first case study, I made a niche site of my own and was following along. It was pretty successful but when Penguin hit, the site lost almost all of it’s traffic. Now it only makes around $1 a day. I have no idea why because I used the exact same keyword research, backlinking and content strategies as your SGTH site. A new case study in the post-penguin environment might help me see where I went wrong and it would motivate me to start a new website.

  • Craig Dargan

    Pat, I read Joshua’s comment’s and got an a-ha moment. I couldn’t have said it better myself. In fact, I found the Niche Site Duel earlier this year (better late than never) and it really inspired me to keep trucking trying to find my Niche in this IM world. I still go back an review some of the posts during that time. I appreciate he Podcasts of late, but to be honest they often seem like advertisements for your interviewee. I realize that your intent is to show your readers the many opportunities out there, as well as, get some exposure for others. However, I would appreciate some more nuts and bolts topics like the Niche Site Duel. Maybe go into building the sites, but also show case studies on traffic generation. Maybe test different type of traffic generation, like SEO vs. PPC/PPV vs. Media Buying. Anyway, this is just one man’s opinion. I will keep coming back no matter what you decide to do. Make no mistake, SPI is a big inspiration to me.

  • http://onlinehoneycollector.com marcus

    Hi Pat,
    I really enjoyed the niche site duel and now I’m inspired to start a blog. I hope you post more “how-to” real life examples of keyword searches, backlinking and SEO topics. I am no writer, however I do love sharing information that others find helpful or interesting. Blogging is a great way to explore that desire and it’s even better if it can pay for itself. :)
    Thank you for the inspiration,

  • Mark Conger

    Pat. Your humbleness humbles me. Thank you for asking for feedback that may affect the future direction of SPI. One thing I think you should keep in mind is that you really have two audiences – generally speaking. One is your current followers that have grown and matured as you have. The other audience is the newcomers who are looking for the content you initially started with. As such, I would suggest injecting new life into your legacy topics and posts (such as the duel that some have referenced) and create new posts from them. I’ve been a reader of tech magazines and trade journals for a few decades now and they all do the same thing – essentially rewrite and renew the successful content. It’s not because they don’t have anything new to say, but it’s what the audiences continually want and it’s what gets people interested. The newer groundbreaking content is always present because the loyal readers want that too. I guess it’s a balancing act that works. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for being such an inspiration to so many people (me included!)

  • http://www.thehomeforsurvival.com/surviving-disaster Surviving Disaster

    Looking forward to 2013 Pat. Yours is the only blog I follow religiously. Looking forward to implementing more things for my sites in 2013.

    All the best to you and your family in 2013.

  • http://blogpod.tv Chris Jacob (blogpod.tv)

    Hi Pat,

    My heart races to hear that you will be pursuing a mentor / group learning program this year.

    Heads up.

    I WILL be in this program.

    Mark my words.


    That might sound presumptuous… but I simply won’t sit by and say “I wish” or “I hope”. I will make it happen.

    I’m working on a disruptive “be everywhere” media platform that will provide a new passive income model for bloggers.

    The business building process (success and failures) will be completely exposed to the public.

    Here are some milestones on the path ahead that the SPI community may find interesting:

    – Domain registration (http://name.com), web hosting (http://mediatemple.net/), media hosting (http://libsyn.com/), and localhost (for development)
    – Setup “Launching soon” page with LaunchRock (http://launchrock.com/)
    – Setup Email list (https://www.aweber.com/)
    – Configure WordPress
    – Install and customise Thesis 2.0
    – Building a Membership site – public and private content
    – Setup a Forum and earning the first 50 active members
    – Accepting monthly subscription payments via Stripe (https://stripe.com/)
    – Podcasting and the iTunes platform (plus others like Stitcher, etc)
    – Building confidence to network with people you admire
    – Launching a minimum viable product
    – Responsive web design (Mobile and Tablet friendly)
    – iPhone/Android App development – including subscription and in app purchases (preferably via PhoneGap – but may need to go native)
    – Search Engine Optimisation – Google/Bing plus iTunes and YouTube
    – Google Analytics and avoiding “vanity metrics”
    – Setup a “real business” – banking, taxes, legal requirements
    – Setup an affiliate program
    – Launch tactics and marketing
    – How to land interviews (and fake confidence until you get past your fear of public speaking)
    – Seed funding via Kickstarter
    – Pricing
    – Branding
    – Hiring, contracting and outsourcing …but, wherever possible taking a crack at learning it yourself.
    – … desire and persistence
    – … creating value, serving others and being in it for long haul (a 10 year business – hat tip to Chase Reeves here for putting things into perspective for me on fizzle.co).

    Hopefully we can talk sometime about your plans.

    I think we have a lot to offer one another.

    Warm Regards,
    Chris Jacob

    P.S I’m working on this fulltime. Failure is not an option. I won’t quit.

    I will be implementing all that I have learnt, and continue to learn from fine blogs such as SPI.

  • David

    Dear Pat,

    I hadn’t really had the feeling of missing anything on your site but now that I think of it after Joshua’s really, really valuable comment: I agree, there hasn’t been anything *extraordinary* in some time. Of course this is highly subjective and others surely think differently. When I look into my email account I see 33 mails from you that point to new content, dating back to April 2012 (‘Crooked Arrows’ article). I have left them in the inbox to be ‘read later’. While many times I just wasn’t able to ready our articles right away (after all, they’re usually rather extensive) and then they got forgotten, I think it does speak, also, for the fact that the subjects, for me at least, are not that exciting anymore that I say: need to read that immediately. Therefore it was surely a good thing to get feedback from your community. I understand that after 4 years it might be getting more difficult to find new, great topics.

    How about the following:
    People regularly comment on you being so super productive, being able to work on multiple projects and pretty much all of them turn into something good. Maybe a video (one or a series) about ‘one day in my life’ in which you show what your day looks like, when you sit down for work, when you take time for your family, what tools you use, how you allocate time to different projects,… I am thinking: this could be done like the TV series ’24’, making it 24 videos of up to 60 mins :) I think this could help people understand that they don’t have to be super-human, a Pat Flynn, Tim Ferriss etc, but simply *act* like them and apply what works for them, rather than never try because they underestimate their potential.

    Just a thought,

    • David


      I listened to your 50th podcast yesterday and I would say that the ’24’ idea ties in very nicely into your ‘factory tour’ suggestion. Can it get any more ‘factory tour’ than such a video series? :) Of course, since you also sleep some hours it would only be a 18 or 17 or so, instead of 24 and since there’s no need to film using the restroom and the like, it won’t have to be 60 mins. Too long anyway, so I am sure one our put into 15 mins would be totally ok :)

      Also, in episode 49 you and your guest talked about ‘taking things to the next level’. Well, I would say such a video series is definitely next level. I don’t know of anyone else in your industry that does that and gives such ‘factory tour’ like insights.

      Regards from greece,

  • http://PhotographyHack.com Jerrywhyte Obamwonyi

    Great to-do-list and bright goals Flynn, I will still that the almighty God will give us the sustainable grace to fully back every bit of what are goals are made up of with actions.

    congrats and welcome to a brand new year 2013

  • http://www.somethinspecial.com Sue Faunt

    Hi Pat,
    I’m just a small business owner that makes a decent living on-line, but I’d like some of it to be passive to free up some time. A few quick google searches led me to you! I’ve started reading your getting started tips and will begin implementing things this month. Thank you so much for sharing all this great information!
    Just another appreciative fan,

  • http://www.samelasunshine.com Samela Dingus

    I still support you and what you do and I appreciate your blog and website. I started out with the intention of creating my own ‘Smart Passive Income’ through blogging and podcasting. I can honestly say that I listened to every podcast you did through September of 2012. I even signed up for the Internet Business Mastery…but in my heart, I’m not a blogger, but I will continue to read and enjoy all of your blogs and podcasts into 2013.

  • http://www.reinventingyourselfafter50.com Keith

    Love it….One of my “tasks” for the new year is to go through all my subscriptions and delete those that have little value. Yours was already at the top of the KEEP pile, but with the fine tuning you are proposing, yours may be THE ONE I keep. Great job as always…and like I have said before, “I want to grow up to be Pat Flynn”…best to you and your family this year….Keith

  • http://www.socalmrfixit.com Carol

    Hi Pat!

    Happy New Year!

    Just a quick thank you for all the great information you share with us. I just finished my first site http://www.socalmrfixit.com – it’s for our handyman/construction business and am now working on a couple of service/passive income sites. One is almost ready to launch and I’m pretty sure that would not be the case if I had not found you in 2012.

    I’m really looking forward to seeing you at NMX next week!



  • http://www.checkmatesystem.com/?page_id=265 Mary

    Pat – I’m not sure of the best way to contact you so I thought I’d just leave a comment.

    I’d love to see a post on the current (January – 2013) best keyword research tools. I can’t even find Google’s any more (in Google Analytics). Please help us out with this information!

    I love what you do and appreciate the fact that you’ve stayed authentic and transparent. Please don’t change!!

  • Ryan

    I like that you will start from scratch. A lot of people will be able to follow your trials and tribulations as you come across them.

    It would be nice if I could start a site when you did and implemented the strategies you did on a day to day basis, or week to week. There is a lot of info floating around and it is easy to get lost on what I need to do on day 1, 2, 3, etc.

    A following “report card” would also be nice, meaning after say…. a month, then report what your site did, how it moved, whatever. Maybe go over some of the mistakes that someone could have made if they did not get as good as results as you did. I know that there are so many different things that could make one site experience significant results and another one see none, but there should be some “common ground”.

    Thanks for the helpful info.

  • http://www.passiveincomesystem.org/How-To-Rank-On-Page-One.html Tim

    Congrats on your success last year and big dividends this year. I’m excited for you, all newcomers and myself. I, too had a measure of success last year with a few of my sites. Nothing like yours, but successes none the less. To those who want to get a good headstart in 2013, good keyword research, post with those keywords in mind, capture leads on your sites and stick with what’s being freely dispensed here. The term blogging is all the rave, but it’s the ones who specialize in keywords, and consistency will win the day.

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  • http://www.definecholesterol.org Terry

    Hi Pat,

    Happy new year! I love your niche site duel and I wish you will start another project like that soon.


  • http://www.archerycompound.net Steve Hardaway

    Hey Pat!

    The Facebook post got my attention as well. While I agree that other content isnt the Niche Site Duel stuff, it is still great stuff that I keep coming back for. The monthly income reports are always inspiring to me, so please keep that up as well.

    I would love to see NSD 2.0, and how things have changed since the last time. Maybe you could even approach the niche site differently this time. I dont know specifically what you would change (or even what I mean per se), since I don’t know your thought process like you do. Perhaps it would be a different kind of content, or maybe it would be something very social networking driven. Something where you wouldnt just be rehashing SGTHQ in a new niche. I think a rehash would still be awesome coming from you and I’d read the heck out of it, but the new one should really challenge you to make it :) Maybe you would do a case study on a flippa site, or dusting off and improving an older one. Maybe you have some ideas on NSD 2.0 already…

    Keep up the killer work, and I look forward to whatever you give us in 2013! I give you my sincerest gratitude for what you have already done for all of us.

    Steve Hardaway

  • http://socialmediabar.com/mch mike

    Wow that was an amazing blog about what your life details are with making passive income from home, Most people do not even take the time to explain what they do or even take the time to do all these things…..Its great that you have a partner in your wife who is there to help you because for alot of people the other partner really dont care unless they start to see the other partner doing very very well then they decide to jump in the action and help after you did all the hard work……Only if more people like you though shared your stories and taught alittle as well it would be a whole new day in the marketing business

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    Hey Guys,

    Glad I checked in today. I am honored that Pat found my feedback so useful. I really try to be honest and fair with my feedback, and while there’s 100 positive things I could say about the blog, I can only imagine how tough it must be for Pat at this point to think about how to improve things given his level of success.

    Figured I’d give a different perspective. Just so you know Pat, your niche site duel gave me the SEO basics to start my own consulting company. A year later we now do SEO/PPC/Analytics as well as Lead Generation.

    Honored to be mentioned

  • http://www.activateyourincome.com randy hollingsworth

    Hey Pat, I’m so glad I found your site. I can honestly I have learned so much from you. I haven’t found any better. I wish only the best for you and your family in the new year. God Bless, Thanks

  • Ben

    Love this idea! also hope you’re enjoying the last day of #NMX

  • http://milliondollarlaunch.com Isaac J

    Whyilst it’s always good to start afresh, I’m not sure why your changing the look of this site, I think it’s awesome, with a decent flow etc…etc..I use Thesis myself, it’s super Fast and super powerful. Good luck mate!

  • http://yespassiveincome.com/ Tony Croft

    Great article, wrote a similar article which can be found at http://yespassiveincome.com/make-money-in-2013/

  • http://www.definecholesterol.org Define Cholesterol Blog

    Hi Pat,

    Thank you for sharing you valuable insights with us. Just to let you know that I’ve been following you for just a few months and I found you through your videos on youtube.

    I think what I would like you to do the most is start another niche site from scratch. It would be interesting to see what you need to do differently in the post penguin and Panda era. A lot of seo guys out there saying article marketing like what you did on NSD doesn’t work anymore. If that’s true, what’s the new approach? I’m sure a lot of your fans would be interest to see.

    Thanks again and I wish you and your family the best in 2013!


    Thank you

  • http://rotterwrites.com Kimberly Rotter

    Good post, Pat. Sorry I missed you at NMX. Wow, I can’t believe I didn’t see that backpack! (But I had to go home early.) I’m one of those who thinks I’m too far away from where you’re at to ever really get there. (But I’m not without hope.) And now you’ve intrigued me with this group you want to form. I realize it needs to be manageable as you get it off the ground, but I want to recommend that you look at the Freelance Writers Den, http://freelancewritersden.com/, started by the Make A Living Writing, http://www.makealivingwriting.com/, blogger Carol Tice. It’s a members only group for people at all levels, and it offers a long list of benefits. Each member can be as involved or peripheral as he/she wants. As with most things, the more you put into it, the more benefit you get from it. Actually, there’s also a monthly fee involved, so you’d find yet another excellent source of passive income in it. And you could bring on some help and end up with a team of people to do the mentoring. I would absolutely love to be part of any mentoring or “leadership” group you start up, and I imagine many others would feel the same way.

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      It’s early…. Did I make it clear that I am recommending you start a similar group, not join it? :)

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  • http://crystalsquest.com Crystal

    Thank you for once again demonstrating how to do the basics, and reconnecting with what your readers want. I love it!

    As for what I most enjoy out of SPI, I have to say the challenges. While I’ve never yet submitted to any of them (still working through some offline issues) each and every one has stretched me in some way. I sincerely hope those will be part of your 2013 line up too.

    I can appreciate both sides of the argument of learning group vs putting out content for maximum reach. The one point I’d like to add to the discussion is that, as a beginner, it can be hard to grasp some of the learned assumptions of someone who’s been there and done it before. That’s the hardest bit – the reading between the lines to ‘get’ the mindset right and pick up on the things that aren’t said, because to someone with the successful mindset, they don’t need to be. I guess what I’m trying to say is, while I’d love to see you do more niche site duels, having already done the first lot the hardest job you face is making sure you explain the things that just seem second nature or common sense to you now, but which wouldn’t be for a newbie. Maybe you could combine this with your learning group and case study people in the group to do a niche site duel for the first time themselves? What about doing a theme of a particular industry or genre each month, or quarter even. That way we’d get to see what’s universal, as well as pick up some of the specifics for the areas we’re each targeting?

    …but of course never at the expense of your number one priority. I know I come well behind your family in terms of importance, and – especially with your daughter’s precious first few years – that’s just how it should be. So I’m willing to accept the guest posts and whatever else is necessary for that bigger picture. [Ironic that an audience interested in passive income should be so demanding of your time and personal attention, isn’t it???] 😉

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  • Carlos

    Hi Pat, would you let us (the email subscribers of your blog) know when you have more info about those mastermind or learning groups? I’d really love to participate!


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